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Friday, April 11, 2014

State & City Park Weddings - The Good, Bad, & The Ugly Regarding Rules

The Blanton House
After painstakingly going through list after list of venues located in Indiana, I was really concerned we would not find something that would "fit us." We looked at several barn venues first. But, there were so many issues with one barn venue or another that we decided to abandon that option pretty quickly. I wrote all about our adventures with barns in this blog post. I literally went through all the venue lists on The Knot, Wedding Wire, and Rustic Bride trying to find a venue that was suitable, affordable, and available. I even found this obscure website that listed all the state and city parks (I cannot even find it now but it looked like it was made in Windows 95).

Whatever we eventually came up with, I was dead set on NOT using a country club; locally most people use one of the country clubs because there really is no other option. So, we started exploring city and state parks. My fiance and I are outdoorsy people to the core. We hike and geocache almost every weekend in the summer so it makes sense for us to have an outdoor woodsy wedding.

Angel Canary Photography
The first place I thought of was Mounds State Park. My fiance and I spend many weekends here in the summer since it is only about 10 minutes from my house. This park is also where we had several of our first dates when we first started seeing each other. Mounds offers a very small building you can rent that I knew from the beginning would not be big enough.

However, when I was searching online I found this picture of a tent (pictured right) erected in the yard adjacent to the party building. This photographer's blog has dozens of pictures from this couple's wedding that took place in Mounds Park. This picture and many others show they were able to use the historic home on site to get ready, the use of the enclosed party building, and they were also able to rent a tent and chairs. I thought this would be SO PERFECT! This was until we called Mounds...

It took a few calls before we got a hold of someone who could give us the skinny on having a wedding at the park. Apparently, the couple who got married at the park (where all the lovely pictures came from) were given the "celebrity treatment" because at the time, they WORKED THERE. The girl we spoke to was snippy on the phone when we told her we found pictures online of a tent and chairs and use of the historic home, and we wondered if that was part of their wedding package. You could tell by the tone of the person we spoke to that other people had seen the photographers pictures online and called the park thinking they would be able to rent the same amenities too.

Olry Photography
At Mounds, there is no such thing as a "wedding package" and the girl on the phone wanted to know where these photos were found (as if she could force them to be removed from the internet). At Mounds, you CANNOT have a tent erected anywhere, you CANNOT have a company truck bring in chairs for outside, you CANNOT have any access whatsoever to the historic building or even the nature center to get ready in (so there is NO place to get ready), and you CANNOT prepay for cars to come in to park (everyone without a state park pass has to pay $5 or $7 to get in).

Basically, everything featured in these photos was a major no-no and no "real person" could ever do the same at the park. We were told we could bring in chairs in a pickup truck or "personal van" but we could not have something like a local rental company come and bring them in inside their box truck...How ridiculous! However, when we started to call other parks they too had some really, and I mean REALLY bizarre rules and regulations.

Here is a list of some of the problems we ran into:

Flush the Fashion
NO Alcohol or weird alcohol rules.

Probably half of the parks we contacted did not allow alcohol, but you have to basically call each place individually to get the rundown on alcohol. Some allowed beer, but no hard liquor. Some allowed you to have beer in cans, but absolutely no glass bottles. Some said we could have beer, but we would have to PUT TAPE ON EVERY SINGLE CAN so no one "could tell from a distance" that it was beer (this was a specific rule at Mounds Park)...Some allowed alcohol but we had to use a bartender of their choice.

Some allowed alcohol but as long as we had a permit on file (you have to BUY THIS from the state) we could use whatever licensed bartender we wanted. At the venue we chose, they are allowing us to use whatever bartender we want and we can have them serve beer, wine, and hard liquor but we will have to use ALL plastic drinking vessels. MOST PARKS do NOT allow you to use real glass glasses for drinking because if they break, kids can step on them and get hurt.

MAOG Meet Up
NO candles, sparklers, bonfires, BBQ smokers, etc.

Most people know parks have signs EVERYWHERE that prohibit the starting of a fire outside a designated fireplace or ring/pit. This same rule applies for a wedding. HOWEVER, some of the parks do not even allow you to start a bonfire if you are having a wedding on site. Why? They are afraid someone will start it then leave it unattended. One of the parks I looked at said if you are hosting an event that has more than 30 people, you have to get someone from the fire department or the head of the boy scout camp to come and supervise whatever fire you have for the entire duration of your party. Some parks only allow bonfires at designated campsites or community fire pit as well.

Unfortunately, people are irresponsible - plain and simple - especially if they have been drinking. Keep in mind as well that you cannot use candles that light with a flame or sparklers/fireworks for the same reason. Many of the venues we looked at do not allow candles PERIOD even if you are renting an enclosed building. Some parks go even further and will not allow you to have a BBQ smoker on site for catering.

Dpnak
NO throwing or releasing of anything.

At the venue we chose the manager was very specific about what we could "throw" and what we could not. For one, if we are using flower petals in the yard they must be 100% real. This means no polyester fake petals AND NO "biodegradable" paper either. The biodegradable petals do not disintegrate, plan and simple. They just become trash that the birds can eat and it can kill them. You also cannot throw rice anymore either - it will kill birds because if they eat it, it will expand and explode their stomachs.

Some venues said no sprinkles either - it causes ants and bees to invade. Most places will also not allow you to use glitter, any kind of confetti, silly string, or anything that will become "waste". Most places will allow you to use bubbles or birdseed however. You can also release butterflies in most parks but some are specific about doves so you will have to ask. Oh, In speaking of "throwing", most city and state parks have pack out policies. Any trash you bring in must be taken with you in trash bags you provide when you leave. So all those bags full of paper plates and half eaten burgers will have to go home with you after the wedding!

Middle of the Map Weddings
How and when you rent and reserve.

Most of these park venues do NOT allow you to rent them in advance. Much like a park-run campground, you have to either call or in some situations you must PHYSICALLY GO TO THE PARK to reserve an enclosed building or a pavilion. We had an RV when I was a kid and I remember getting up at the crack of dawn on a Wednesday or Thursday before school to go to a park to reserve a campsite for the weekend. Weddings are no different.

Some of the places we looked into tell you that you must wait one year to the day to either call or come to the park to SEE IF THEY ARE AVAILABLE. There is ZERO guarantee! Some of the parks also let it slip that they give special permission to city workers, donors, friends of park employees, boy scouts, schools, etc. So, basically if you want a very popular or specific weekend for your wedding, you probably will not get it.

Other parks will only allow you to come the DAY OF your event or the day before to reserve a pavilion or gazebo. If this is the case, you will need a family member, day of coordinator, or a groomsman - someone to hightail it to the park very early to reserve it. It is also NOT FREE to reserve a pavilion at some parks. This can be a catch 22 type situation because of how this is handled. Say for example you are getting married over Memorial Day weekend and you want use of a specific pavilion for the reception. Other park guests might come and be at the park early to set up their BBQ/family reunion at a pavilion without reserving it. So, you might be at the gate paying your rental fee like you are supposed to and when you get to "your" pavilion, there might already be a party in progress.

We actually saw this happen in Brown County this past October. We were hiking and heard a HUGE spat going down. A horse drawn carriage and about 30 cars arrived at a pavilion located next to the water. An older man (probably the bride's father) was screaming and waving their park permit at a Hispanic family that was holding a full blown Quinceanera with over 50 guests. We watched the spectacle for about 15 minutes and no one from the park came to help. It was obvious neither family was going to budge...

DNR Illinois
Lack of security, supervision, or other issues.

Never forget that parks are public spaces. Just because it is obvious someone is holding a wedding in a particular area of a park does not mean people will not sneak in or possibly cause a problem. The DNR are not your personal security! In fact, if you are having more than 100 people in attendance, it might be a good idea to hire an off duty police officer to watch over the party - in particular the gifts. It seems like every day you hear about cards and gifts getting stolen at weddings. It would be very easy for someone to slip in and out of a busy park unnoticed with your card box in their backpack.

You also have to take into account that other activities might be taking place at the park during your wedding. We go to parks all the time. Every now and then a marathon will take place and you cannot find a parking space in the whole park. It could be Boy Scout day and 200 ten-year-olds might be running around. The SWAT team might be doing diving training in the creek and they will be screaming (some are obscene) as they recover "bodies" from the water. People can also accidentally stumble upon your wedding - then proceed to walk through it because they do not know where the tail head is located. I must admit we did this on accident at the IMA when we visited their garden center on what was apparently also prom day. There were so many young ladies in fancy dresses with eager parents snapping photos we were trying to stay out of their way when we accidentally walked directly behind an officiant conducting a wedding...oops!  

Robert & Kathleen Photography
Limitations on tents and decorations.

Some of the parks we looked at stated under no circumstances could anyone use crepe paper streamers or balloons as decorations. These two items can blow or float away easily so that is understandable. One park said you could not use shepherd hooks that go into the ground. Many do not allow you to attach anything to the pavilions with tape, nails, or staples and instead you have to use twine. Many parks simply do not allow any "attached" decor at all (centerpieces are usually just fine).

Ultimately these rules are in place because people make a mess and certain things can really harm animals. Like I said before, most parks do not even have trash cans anymore because they have adopted a "pack out" policy. My fiance and I always take a trash bag with us when we hike because we volunteer to pack out whatever anyone else was too lazy to take with them to throw away themselves.

Many parks will not allow you to use tents either. Like I said before in regards to Mounds, if the tent has to be staked into the ground, most will not allow it. Keep in mind any large tent (like you use for a wedding) will need to be staked into the ground for stability. Some allow small popup style tents like caterers use. However, aside from the venue we chose that provides a tent, all the other parks we looked at had a strict "no tent policy" or a tent placement rule where they had to be in a certain spot. LIGHTING is another issue! Parks are NOT OPEN at night! Because of this, they are not illuminated. While some parks will allow you to stay until the late evening, make sure you have lights available and the electricity to use them. Most parks will allow you to use Christmas or cafe lights in pavilions since they can be easily draped and subsequently removed, but make sure you ask the park and have ample outlets!

Elizabeth Ann Designs
Music is another issue. Some parks do not care if you have a DJ - some will not allow you to have one at all. Strict sound ordinances are enforced by most parks in regards to how loud the music is across the board. Parks are peaceful places, and you must think not everyone will enjoy you blasting dance music in the early afternoon.

You have to keep in mind as well a park pavilion might not have any electricity (or appropriate number of plug ins) for a DJ to hook anything into. While some parks will allow you to have an string quartet or a band, again the rules and sound decibel limit will vary from park to park. Usually if the park allows music, you typically have to have it off by 10:00 or 11:00 PM. Never forget when you have a wedding at a park, it is not your private domain! Be respectful of park guests, any other bride that might be holding a wedding at the same time, and take care not to harm or damage the plants and animals.

MAJOR perks to having a park wedding:

Aside from some funky rules, ultimately parks really are great places to hold weddings. For one, you really do not need any decor - let the woods, water, and nature be your canvas. There is plenty of parking and usually they have handicapped accessible bathrooms. Parks are also very casual so you do not get that stuffy, hoity vibe you sometimes get from country clubs. If you think your guests will get bored, they can hike a trail, bring their fishing equipment, or snap some nature photos. Parks are also SUPER kid friendly! They have amazing playground equipment to keep them entertained or you can send them across the way to play kickball or tag. If you do not mind your guests sitting at picnic tables, seating will not be a problem so you do not have to rent anything extra for that.

Persimmon Images
Most parks are also very cheap to rent - that goes for pavilions and enclosed buildings. And if you need an event permit they are usually less than $100 depending on where you have your wedding (the park we chose does not require an extra event permit). There is also a major perk if the park has an eatery where they can cater your meal so you will not even have to deal with finding an outside caterer. If the park has cabins or camping, your guests can book one and make a weekend getaway out of the wedding, or your grandparents might want to bring their RV for the whole week and take a nice stroll down to your wedding. Your photos will be AMAZING! You will probably not have a waitstaff hovering around you the whole wedding and the whole thing can be very much about family.

Ultimately, we chose a park venue for the outdoor capabilities. I wanted that "in the middle of the woods" feel but with modern amenities like a tent in case it rained, ample lighting and electricity, modern bathrooms, a kitchen for the caterer, and formal tables and chairs. Our venue was more pricy due to them having all those amenities but I feel it will be totally worth it. On a side note, I cannot wait until May to revisit our venue so I can give a glowing review!

Tuesday, January 28, 2014

Back Yard Weddings - Unexpected Issues

Young House Love
When I got engaged in December of 2013, I was taken completely by surprise. I did not expect it, anticipate it, or anything. My fiance did not even hint that this was going to happen either! He was able to cleverly hide his excitement because he proposed about two weeks before Christmas. Sneaky, sneaky...Anyway, I quickly went into a panic about a venue once the initial excitement subsided. 

My fiance and I have been together for a long time, so it is not like I have not looked up wedding stuff before. His parents knew of the proposal before my mom because my fiance had showed them the ring he bought me. As soon as we came out and made the "announcement" they wanted to know the date. Yes, right then and there (I mean after 6 1/2 years we should know right?)

I wanted to get married 10 months later. I made this statement as very matter of fact that I wanted to get married on October 11, 2014. My fiance said that would be "fine" and basically left the planning in my hands. My mother, my fiance's friends & family, and everyone who would be coming seemed to be on board with this. So, into full-on bridezilla mode I went. 

I needed to find a venue yesterday, not today. I sent out a flood of e-mails literally the day after we got engaged asking about availability only to be shut down at every turn. Everything was booked - everything. And not just October either - everything to the end of the year was taken (barns and rustic outdoor venues). I had a meltdown. We were able to develop a theme, find a caterer, and the person who would be doing my dress - but no venue.

Regal Tent Productions
We then began milling over the possibility of having it down at my fiance's grandmothers home. My future father and sister in law made this suggestion early on but we did not really think about it until we discovered that we would not have a venue come October 2014. Another problem we were running into was that it was very hard to see the "vision" at some of these venues with 5 inches of snow on the ground.

Another issue that was brought into question was how to handle the elders who were mobility impaired. Basically, if we did not have the wedding - ceremony and reception - at grandma's, they would not be able to come at all. My fiances' grandmothers both need to have nurses and attendants 24/7 and one of my grandmothers is almost totally immobile. So we thought, this will be perfect! The venue would be free and the grandmothers would not be inconvenienced....In about three weeks time this all went down the drain. 

We did not realize how many obstacles we would run into with having a wedding at "home".

Destination Weddings
Tents:

We did find a local renter who could rent us a 40X80 tent for $1000. We actually called three rental places and only one was renting tents that had roll up sides. We thought that price was quite reasonable and there was plenty of room at grandma's for this. We also calculated the size of her back yard and figured we could get 40 cars to park in the grass and maybe 20 more along the road. Perfect! 

We planned on having an outside ceremony and an indoor/outdoor reception by using the tent. BUT we had to prepare for the worst case scenario that it could be cold and be pouring down rain. If this were to happen, everyone would need to be inside the tent and have it enclosed.

Apples & Onions
Lighting:

However, one day it suddenly hit me - lighting. Oh my gosh lighting. Now, my fiance and future father in law are the handiest people I know. They can electrify and plumb anything anywhere. However, I realized that if we have an October wedding, it will get dark at about 6:00. 

This meant that we would not only need lights in the parking area, but lights in the tent. The rental company did not rent lights - and I had only bought enough Christmas lights after the holiday season to use in the trees for the outdoor ceremony. The lights pictured above are called commercial grade cafe lights. They are used for outdoor weddings and inside barns because they are weatherproof. 

You CANNOT plug these in end-to-end. So you must have outlet access where ever you plan on using them. To get enough lights for the fence around the parking area, the tent, and promenade to the tent it would cost $1000-$1200. 

The tent we would be renting did not have the clear plastic windows, so if it were cold or rainy and needed to be enclosed, the inside would have to be illuminated. Plus, my father in law would have to put in an electrical box running from the house to the creek on grandma's property to plug things in. 

In addition: Most places where you rent tents will SPECIFICALLY tell you that you cannot use real candles inside their tents! This is quite common. So, if you thought of illuminating your tables with a zillion candles, you might be out of luck if you are renting a tent. 

Internachi
Bathrooms:

Bathrooms were the next hurdle. Grandma's house has three bathrooms - however one would be for exclusive use of myself, the bridesmaids, and the groom and groomsmen since it is located inside a bedroom. The second bathroom is only a half bath, and the third is handicapped accessible but it is in the middle of the house. While this would be great for the elders - having 130 people using basically one bathroom is not feasible on a septic tank

It would also cause an unacceptable line to the bathroom after dinner, and it would clog up the hallway leading to the kitchen that would be in full use by the caterer. We called Hoosier Portables about renting a Luxury Bathroom because port-o-pots would not work (not handicapped accessible and no running water). This would set us back an additional $1500 FOR ONE DAY.

The Pfister
Dance Floor:

The dance floor was another problem. The place that rented the tent would rent us a dance floor for an additional $100 I think. It was not very big - I am thinking it was 10X10 or 20X20. We busted out some graph paper and started drawing things in to figure out where we could place the dance floor and it became apparent that it would be a really tight fit. 

We had difficulties figuring out how to plan for a center aisle in case we had to hold the ceremony indoors due to rain. A promenade to the tent was another issue. If it happened to be really muddy or rainy, we did not want people slipping and sinking into the mud walking from their cars to the tent. However, we did plan to make a "boardwalk" out of pallet wood. 

Decoration0
Tables & Chairs:

We would also have to rent tables and chairs. Our local True Value Hardware was the cheapest renter we found. Chairs were $1 each for a Friday night drop off and Sunday morning pick up. Tables were I think $5 each, and their delivery fee was $35 since the store is so close to grandma's house. When it was all said and done it would be about $500 JUST TO RENT TABLES AND CHAIRS. 

Not only was this becoming a bit ridiculous with the budget, but then - they could not guarantee delivery until after 5:00 pm on Friday. This would not give us enough time to place the chairs outside for the ceremony and cover with tarps to be ready for Saturday, and it also meant we would have to do all the chair and table decorations on Saturday morning.  

DO NOT forget you will be having a rehearsal and dinner on the Friday night before your wedding! I totally forgot about this and the fact that my fiance and 6 groomsmen would be busy on Friday afternoon getting their final fittings at Men's Warehouse in Indianapolis and they would not be available to help. 

DO NOT underestimate the amount of time it will take you the morning of your wedding to set up the tables and tablescape! Remember that linens cannot be left out overnight because they will get dewy. Linens will also have to be pressed. If you are lighting the undersides of your tables, you will have to manage electrical and put on table skirts which can be tricky. If you can (if you are decorating yourself) do a dry run at home on a card table to time just how long it will take you to set up.

Catering Kitchen
Catering:

My fiances' grandmothers home was built to entertain. This was a major plus for us. We could rope off the back of the house and have the caterer make a seamless transition from her kitchen to the garage where buffet tables would be set up. 

The only problem with this is that it severely limited the use of one of the bathrooms. We did contemplate using her back patio as an area for the buffet. But, the tents the caterers use only cover the tables - they are NOT big enough to cover a large area. So, in other words we would have to rent a secondary tent for the food area if it were on the patio. This is why we settled on the garage.

However, there is a considerable distance between the garage/patio to where the tent would be placed. If it were raining, we would be forced to set up additional tables inside the main tent for chafing dishes which would take up a considerable amount of space.

Second Chances by Susan
Gift Tables & Extras:

Another thing that would take up a huge amount of space inside the tent would be tables for gifts and cards, the cake, snacks, A BAR, drink station, guest book, and TRASH. If the weather were inclement, everything would need to be in the main tent. We could have set up gifts and the cake inside the main house - but of course if it were raining and muddy we would not want guests tacking mud all over grandma's house. She would have a fit if that happened.

We figured we could do a guest book at the door, use one corner for buffet and snacks, one corner for bar and drinks, one corner for cake and gifts and cards, and one corner for a DJ or music station. 

Then I thought - oh my - one end of the tent would need to be used for a head table and two flanking tables for the groomsmen/bridesmaids and their spouses, and the parents. That only leaves two free corners inside the tent since a dance floor will be in the middle. This would be OK if we put gifts and cards in one corner, and we could put all buffet, drinks, snacks, and bar in another corner, but then that left ZERO room for a DJ. So, we would have to rent yet another tent to house either the food or the gifts and cake because there would not be enough room.

Pre-Owned Wedding Dresses
The Budget:

We had it in our minds that we would be saving gobs of cash by having the wedding at grandma's house as well. I mean think about it - free land, free main house, free creek side ceremony! But things added up SO QUICKLY that it became a ridiculous idea to even try and have it in her backyard. Then when I thought about it some more, I thought "I bet most brides would run into the same problems we did when planning a backyard wedding".  

Here is a breakdown for comparison:

One Tent - $1000
Additional Tent(s) - $500
Bathroom - $1500
Lighting - $1200
Dance Floor - $100
Tables & Chairs - $500
Total: - $4800

This does not even begin to include a caterer, DJ, decorations, cake, snacks, drinks, bar, dress, and all the other expenses that come with a wedding! For $4800, most people can find an amazing venue that already has bathrooms, chairs, and tables included in the price for much less than $4800. 

It was when I brought this to my fiance's attention that we knew we could not use grandma's house for the wedding and we would not be getting married this year. Luckily, we did not tell anyone about our plan on having a wedding in 2014 so no plane tickets or reservations were made. By bumping the date to October 2015, this gives us plenty of time to find a venue that is in our budget and relax!

And don't worry! We did not forget about the grandmothers! Understanding that they would not be able to travel to wherever we decided to have the wedding, we did decide to hold a "grandmother ceremony" at her house. We will get a small cake and a photographer and I can wear my dress for them to see in the fall of 2014. Having a 10 person ceremony at grandma's house is totally acceptable and do-able, a 150 person party is not.

Friday, January 17, 2014

Pros and Cons of Using a Barn for your Wedding Venue


Stockade Buildings Inc.
Honestly, the day after I got engaged I was online the WHOLE day researching wedding barns. I was really super excited to be engaged, but I knew finding a venue would be a problem. I was 100% positive I wanted a barn wedding. I sent out a flood of e-mails asking about availability and I was somewhat shocked that everything was booked 1-2 years in advance...and nothing was available in October. 

When my fiance asked for my hand in marriage in December of 2013, I was pretty dead set on having a wedding in October 2014....that is until I realized there IS a reason why it typically takes 18-24 months to plan a wedding. Unless you have a lot of friends and family who can either pitch in, pull strings, or offer services like a venue, catering, photography, and flowers it is HARD to put a wedding together in less than a year. In all honesty, it cannot be done IF you want to have a big party type wedding where friends and family come from out of state. Furthermore, barn weddings skyrocketed in popularity in the last 3 years and it seems that everyone wants that setting for their big day. This has caused a shortage in venues of this type because while a large number of people have a barn in rural Indiana, they house livestock and hay and are not "wedding ready."

Now, of course all that you need on your big day is your fiance, your license, and an officiant - that is it. But, being a big DIY person myself and wanting to have my personal touches incorporated into the wedding it became very evident in about a months time that the wedding would look "thrown together" if we tried to push for October. Furthermore, I was so set on having a barn wedding since it meshes with vintage so well, the idea of using a different kind of venue was something that I did not even want to think about because it was stressing me out. So, quickly my vision of having chandeliers hanging in a rustic setting while guests danced the night away were quickly fading. All my Pinterest pins were becoming irrelevant, my plan of an autumn wedding was going out the window, and the panic was setting in.

Then...the harsh reality of a barn venue hit me. Like a ton of bricks it hit me.

Many of the barn venues I looked at were open and bare, and had cafe rope lights and some chandeliers hanging inside. You get taken in by the ambiance, but once you start asking questions the more and more impractical they become. In fact, if you really take into account the needs of your guests - not just you - but all the people coming to your wedding, you might end up regretting having a barn wedding. 

Here is why: 
Zionsville Barn
Parking:

Many barn venues have you park in the grass or a pasture - this might be directly next to the barn. This can eliminate the possibility of having an outdoor ceremony if you wanted to use the barn solely for the reception. This can also be a problem if it rains and you will have women in heels tromping through mud. Some of the venues will also NOT come with parking attendants - this can become a nightmare fast because some of the lots are SO small, that you must pack the cars in like sardines to get everyone in. If left to park themselves, most people will not tightly pack-in unless directed to do so. So, you might fill the lot and not have enough room for everyone.

Hoosier Portables
Bathrooms:


Only ONE barn venue I looked at had a bathroom in the actual barn. Many barn venue sites do not tell you this because I think they hope the vision will take over and you will not mind renting a bunch of blue port-o-pots for your guests. I do not know about you, but my grandmothers and many elders in my family cannot and would not use a port-o-pot. Port-o-pots also DO NOT have sinks or running water. To have a hand washing station, this an extra cost AND YOU MUST HAVE WATER HOOK UP to use a hand washing station. 

If the barn you are looking at have no plumbing or a place to run water, guests cannot wash their hands. We were contemplating renting a Luxury Portable Bathroom Trailer from Hoosier Portables (pictured above) if we went with a barn venue. These look like real restrooms on the inside, have toilets that flush, have sinks with hot and cold water, have changing tables for babies, and are heated/air conditioned. BUT you MUST have electrical hookup and water hoses to get them to work. Furthermore, these cost $1500 to rent for ONE DAY!  

Another caveat is that none of the portable toilets are handicapped accessible. If you have any guests who use a wheelchair or walker they will not be able to use a portable restroom. And in speaking of most barns not having water...

D&R Market
Catering:

Nearly all caterers WILL NEED ACCESS TO A KITCHEN. Most of the time if a caterer is coming to an on-site venue, they will need the use of a full kitchen to prepare food. Even if someone is bringing a BBQ smoker, they still need refrigeration for meats and sides. Keep in mind that a barn, which probably housed horses a few years ago, will not have a kitchen. Unless there is a secondary building on site or the barn has been converted, the caterer you choose might not be doable if there is no kitchen. 

Even if you went with something like a food truck, just like the portable restrooms they need both water and electrical hookup to work. One of the barns I looked at had all these "partners" for catering. When I looked through them and what they offered, I suddenly realized that they were only showing pictures of hors d'oeuvres, appetizers, and snacks. In the small print on one of the catering sites they specifically said that if you have a wedding at "X" barn the only food option is cold appetizers and a full meal is not possible. It would be a BAD day if you booked your dream venue only to find you could not have real food served. 

Poetic Home

Heating & Air Conditioning:

Unless you are looking at a barn that has been converted, IT WILL NOT BE CLIMATE CONTROLLED!!! I am planning my wedding in the state of Indiana. We have deathly cold winters and sweltering summers. It can also be 30 degrees in the morning and 85 in the afternoon in the middle of October. In other words, the weather is so unpredictable that you have to plan for the worst case scenario. Most of the barns I looked at left it up to the renter to locate and rent fans or heaters at an additional cost. If you had to heat the inside of a wooden barn - how well do you think the heat would stay inside a structure without insulation and high ceilings? The answer is not very well. 

You would also probably be really limited on the number of heaters to rent (it would be taxing on whatever electrical they have) so if it were cold, guests would likely be shivering in their coats all night long. The prospects in summer can be just as bad with the common 100% humidity we get in July and August. A box fan - or even 20 of them will not do squat if it is humid. It will just make a TON of noise and BLOW napkins and hair everywhere and do nothing to cool a room.  

Keep your guests in mind!!! Many of our beloved elders are on medications for various things. I know there are at least 10 family members on my side of the family that CANNOT under any circumstances be allowed to get over heated, dehydrated, or be left in the sun for too long without having the option to go to a climate controlled area for even a little while. Sweltering heat can also cause dehydration to set in quickly...so if your guests will be having a few cocktails at your wedding be prepared to have some very tipsy guests. 

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NO Tables, Chairs, Tents, or Dance Floors:

Only TWO barns I contacted provided tables and chairs. Most of the barns are a "bare canvas" for you to envision what you want. But, that does mean you will need to rent your own tables and chairs. I priced this out at a local hardware store that rented round and rectangle tables and chairs - it would have been $700! Do not forget that if you want the ceremony outside, you will need extra chairs for that as well -one for each guest or enough benches for all. And you will need an arch, podium, or something like that for you to stand in front of while you exchange vows. 

You will probably need a tent too...believe it or not you cannot get more than 125 people in most barn venues - and double check the capacity with your venue manager! Some will assume that an open patio off the barn will serve as an additional seating area, but obviously if it is not covered and it rains everyone will need shelter. Once you get tables and chairs inside a barn with a DJ, buffet, gift table, cake table, etc. it can get cramped fast. If you find yourself in need of an outdoor space for people to spread out, to rent a tent that is 40X60 it will cost $800-$1000. If your idea was like mine and want a ceremony outside and a reception inside you have to plan what will happen if there is rain - which is why a tent is of the utmost importance. 

Some of the barns also have dirt floors or old slat floors. Have you ever danced on a dirt floor? What happens is the room will fill up with dust and look like a stampede and everything will get dirty. If the barn has a slat floor, beware of heels!!! Heels will get stuck in between the slats and cause falls and rolled ankles. Some of the barns have concrete floors but if they do not, you need to plan on renting an actual dance floor.

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Allergies:

When the barn trend skyrocketed, many people decided to cash in on the wedding potential. This can mean that your amazing barn venue might have had horses, manure, and hay stored inside the previous summer. Many barns are also located on WORKING farms - meaning you could have crops being harvested in October or planted in the spring right outside your venue door. While it would not bother me at all if a combine rolled by while we were exchanging vows, I know my fiance would be in allergy hell. He is even the son of a farmer and has a cornfield in his backyard and he still has horrible allergies.  

Keep guests in mind!!! Many people are allergic to hay and dust from crops! Some barns, if they have been closed up and recently reopened to be used as a venue, might be moldy, musty, or smelly...or smell like horses. While you might think you can "get past the smells", in the summer the smells could be worse and be really gross while guests are eating. Be sure to ask if your venue has been renovated or treated. Two of the barns I looked at mentioned in their FAQ that they were sprayed and cleaned but some of the others were questionable.

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A DJ, PA System, WiFi, Speakers, Etc.:

Like I mentioned before, some of these barns are really small on the inside once you get tables, chairs, and things like buffets, bars, and gift areas inside. Some are so small they specifically mention that they provide an "entertainment bar or suite"...which really means they have a card table for your laptop to play from Spotify. Many barn venues offer nothing more than that - so no speakers and many will not have internet access or WiFi. 

Now, most DJ's will have their own speaker stands and all their equipment - but many barns simply do not have the room for such things. And again, you will need to address the electrical situation because DJ equipment takes a lot of outlets. DO NOT FORGET about outside!!! I think a lot of couple do not realize if you have your ceremony outside, unless you have a microphone and speakers, no one past the first row can hear you. NO ONE CAN HEAR YOU AT ALL. I think this is one of the biggest wedding faux-pas that seem to happen again and again. Unless you see an electrical box outside the barn, you must ask if it is possible to run a PA system outside. If not, you might need to furnish your own extension cords so that your friends and family can hear your vows!

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Getting Ready:

Some of the barn venues have small bridal suites available for getting ready. However, of the barns I located that have suites, they were located in a "main house" or adjacent building to the barn. The issue you run into with this is that many of these barns are located on private property. This means the main house is probably where the owners live and you will be using their bedrooms, bathrooms, or basement if they did not add onto their property for this specific reason. 

At one venue we looked at, the main house would provide us with the entire upper floor for getting ready...But the groom and groomsmen would be in the same hall, so if you did not want someone to sneak a peek that would not really work. Then, it was quite a walk from the house to the barn - so far in fact that in heels it would not be possible. You would then need to arrange for someone to drive the bride and bridesmaids to the barn - not very practical. Another venue had a room for the bride, but it was only about 10X10 and it was dimly lit. Plus, the bridesmaids would either need to get ready before or after me if they wanted to use the same room. 

The Verdict:

I am still totally in love with the idea of having a barn/rustic/vintage wedding - especially if we found a venue with chiffon drapes, cafe lights, and chandeliers - and bathrooms, heat/ac, and tables and chairs on site. However, when speaking to an event manager, farmer, or private property owner in regards to renting their barn for your wedding do not forget to ask about:

1.) Bathrooms
2.) Handicapped Accessibility
3.) Outlets, Electrical, Water
4.) Parking
5.) Heating and Air Conditioning
6.) Dance Floor Situation
7.) Allergies
8.) Internet, WiFi, or Cellular Availability
9.) Kitchen and/or Refrigeration/Cooking
10.) Dressing and Changing Rooms/Suites

IN ADDITION:

Yesterday as I was researching barn venues I came across a scary reality. Some of these barns ARE NOT LICENSED TO BE OPENED. Depending on where you live, I am sure the laws vary greatly. However, I found a venue page on Facebook where some people opened a barn located on their private property for use as a "party barn" after they remodeled it for a family member's wedding. While it is perfectly fine to use your home, barn, shed, pavilion, etc. that you privately own for a private function, it is different than if you are to use the same building or area for a "public facility". 

The barn I looked at the other day was allowed to host weddings for almost a year (with weddings booked two years in advance from that date) only to have the zoning board come in and shut them down suddenly and without warning. I would imagine more than 2 dozen couples lost their venue when this happened if not more. Make sure with the venue owner or manager that they are licensed and insured to be open. Furthermore, make sure you read their contact and what it says regarding cancellations, accidental double bookings, emergencies, injuries, etc.